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right now with fourth year in a row with over a trillion dollars in deficit spending, that deficit and debt continues it to climb. it doesn't wipe it out. what does it do to the overall economy. we're not just dealing with one tax increase right now. the affordable care act actually begin on january 1st as well for people making $200,000 or more or people with large medical bills. that already starts coming up. this is an additional tax increase on top of that tax increase. >> what about what bill clinton said? he said once things start to get better, and that's a crucial point he was making. he wasn't saying doing it right away. once it gets better, taxes go up on the middle class. do you agree with that? >> i don't, actually. the reason being is that right now if you look at the real math on it, in 2007 and 2012 we have the same amount of revenue. obviously 2008 and '09 we had a dramatic drop in federal revenues coming in. we've slowly climbed back up. revenue has gone up every single year in the obama administration, and now we're at historic highs. the difference is our spending in
right now with fourth year in a row with over a trillion dollars in deficit spending, that deficit and debt continues it to climb. it doesn't wipe it out. what does it do to the overall economy. we're not just dealing with one tax increase right now. the affordable care act actually begin on january 1st as well for people making $200,000 or more or people with large medical bills. that already starts coming up. this is an additional tax increase on top of that tax increase. >> what about...
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right now with the fourth year in a row, that deficit and debt continues to climb. so it doesn't really wipe it out and the challenge of it is what does that do to the overall economy. we're not just dealing with one tax increase as well. a lot of people lose track of that. the affordable care about actually begin on january 1st as well for people making $200,000 or more. or people having large medical bills. this is talking about an additional tax increase on top of that. >> what about what bill clinton said? he said once things start to get better and that's a crucial point he was making. once the economy starts to get better, taxes have to go up on the middle class. do you agree? is. >> i don't, actually. and the reason being is that right now, if you look at the real math, in 2007 and 012, we have the same amount of revenue. now, 2008 and 2009, we had a dramatic drop in federal revenues, but we've slowly climbed back up. revenue has gone up every year of the obama administration and now, we're at historic highs. the same as we were five years ago. the difference
right now with the fourth year in a row, that deficit and debt continues to climb. so it doesn't really wipe it out and the challenge of it is what does that do to the overall economy. we're not just dealing with one tax increase as well. a lot of people lose track of that. the affordable care about actually begin on january 1st as well for people making $200,000 or more. or people having large medical bills. this is talking about an additional tax increase on top of that. >> what about...
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we're the ones that are going to be handed down the $60 trillion deficit. they will come to a deal. but right now, it's political theater. and it's probably going to look like the simpson-bowles. that will come full-circle again. >> here's a problem the republicans have got themselves into. is obama has been very clever here, the president. i think what he's done is skillfully said to the public, if he goes over the fiscal cliff, the republicans are prepared to make the entire middle class to pay more tax to save 2% of the wealthiest americans paying a little bit more. and that's a very bad position for the republicans to find themselves in, isn't it? >> it certainly is. it's a very bad position for them to find themselves in. the fact of the matter, it isn't true. raising taxes on the wealthiest americans will not only solve the problems. it doesn't even address the core problems. the core problems, $16 trillion in national debt comes from government overspending. and we have sluggish growth. raising the taxes on anybody, whether it's the poor or the middle class or the wealthiest
we're the ones that are going to be handed down the $60 trillion deficit. they will come to a deal. but right now, it's political theater. and it's probably going to look like the simpson-bowles. that will come full-circle again. >> here's a problem the republicans have got themselves into. is obama has been very clever here, the president. i think what he's done is skillfully said to the public, if he goes over the fiscal cliff, the republicans are prepared to make the entire middle...
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. >> he's saying that republicans do not believe this is the right path to cutting our deficit, into promoting economic growth, boehner says. they do not want to raise tax rates. on wealthy americans or any american. i was outside a meeting that the republican leaders had with the rank and file members yesterday, speaking to member after member after they were leaving their meeting. there's often quite a break from the leadership and rank and file. they have given john boehner trouble in the past but at this point, they are giving him some lee way and they seem to be rallying around the speaker and his negotiations at this point. there's no budging on either side. >> they said there was a lot of support there. president obama said i'm sticking to my guns also. the president is warning the republicans next move will be to use the upcoming vote on the debt ceiling as leverage in the budget battle. let's listen. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, w
. >> he's saying that republicans do not believe this is the right path to cutting our deficit, into promoting economic growth, boehner says. they do not want to raise tax rates. on wealthy americans or any american. i was outside a meeting that the republican leaders had with the rank and file members yesterday, speaking to member after member after they were leaving their meeting. there's often quite a break from the leadership and rank and file. they have given john boehner trouble in...
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coburn is known for his hard line on the deficit. he says he would rather bring down the debt by raising tax rates than just closing the loopholes and capping deducti s deductions. here's how he explained it. >> personally, i know we have to raise revenue. i don't really care which way we do it. actually, i would rather see the rates go up than do it the other way because it gives us greater chance to broaden the by as in the future and reform the tax code. >> two republican senators from maine are joining coburn in backing a tax hike on the wealthiest americans, but senator susan collins and olympia snowe say they would like to include some protect as well for small business owners. well, no debt talks scheduled between republicans and the white house, but the president is pushing ahead with the fiscal cliff pr campaign. he is meeting with a middle class family in northern virginia, and the white house says the president is going to talk about his efforts to extend tax cuts for the middle class as part of this debt deal. well, some
coburn is known for his hard line on the deficit. he says he would rather bring down the debt by raising tax rates than just closing the loopholes and capping deducti s deductions. here's how he explained it. >> personally, i know we have to raise revenue. i don't really care which way we do it. actually, i would rather see the rates go up than do it the other way because it gives us greater chance to broaden the by as in the future and reform the tax code. >> two republican...
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we're getting the $16 trillion deficit passed down to us. >> do you think young people get that, though? do you think they understand the long-term consequences? >> not like they should. >>> still ahead this morning on "starting point," they're an army of one, but does it apply if you are not particularly religious? we'll tell you why one cadet quit the west point military academy just months before he was supposed to graduate because he says he's not religious. >>> also, more bad pr for penn state. look at these lovely sorority girls. yes, they are dressed lake mexicans with mustaches holding signs that, "will mow lawn for beer," things like that. how clever. we'll talk about that photo straight ahead. yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ female announcer ] live the regular life. phillips'. and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a rev
we're getting the $16 trillion deficit passed down to us. >> do you think young people get that, though? do you think they understand the long-term consequences? >> not like they should. >>> still ahead this morning on "starting point," they're an army of one, but does it apply if you are not particularly religious? we'll tell you why one cadet quit the west point military academy just months before he was supposed to graduate because he says he's not religious....
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the so-called fiscal cliff for a year but has yet to come up with a plan that actually reduces our deficit. i'm willing to work with anyone to put a plan on the table, but we're not willing to negotiate with someone who hasn't put a plan on the table. the president has not put a serious plan on the table. >> as far as a compromise on the marginal tax rate 35% going up let's say 36% or 37%, is that acceptable? >> no. no. because marginal tax rate increases if there is any increase in revenue, just gives them more to play with on capitol hill and more to spend. when we talk about fairness, when the top 2%, the $250,000 and above are already paying 45% of total income tax, that's a big question of fairness there too. >> who should nicki haley name to replace you? >> i talk today her today. i share the same philosophy, the conservative philosophy. i told her i trust her decision and i'm not going to push her one way or another. >> a lot of speculation, congressman scott? >> he's a wonderful person. our whole delegation is really strong. she's got a tough choice, but i'm convinced she'll give m
the so-called fiscal cliff for a year but has yet to come up with a plan that actually reduces our deficit. i'm willing to work with anyone to put a plan on the table, but we're not willing to negotiate with someone who hasn't put a plan on the table. the president has not put a serious plan on the table. >> as far as a compromise on the marginal tax rate 35% going up let's say 36% or 37%, is that acceptable? >> no. no. because marginal tax rate increases if there is any increase in...
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we've been running a trillion dollar deficit every year under this administration. president obama has nearly doubled the debt. the spending is out of control. and it's -- we have this economy that continues to struggle -- >> the debt ceiling -- >> the debt ceiling is our opportunity to really look at these questions, but the republicans want to negotiate -- speaker boehner the day after the election, went to the podium and put tax revenue on the table. this is our moment, this is our -- tip o'neill and president reagan back in the early '80s, they came together. they negotiated to save social security as well as address the spending. and it was a $3 in spending cuts to every dollar in new revenue. and that's the type of approach we need today. >> they never used the issue of debt ceiling in those negotiations. that's relatively new. the president says, i will not play that game. he may have no choice, because the republicans have a decisive majority in the house of representatives. if they want to play that game, he's going to have to do it. >> whey believe the pre
we've been running a trillion dollar deficit every year under this administration. president obama has nearly doubled the debt. the spending is out of control. and it's -- we have this economy that continues to struggle -- >> the debt ceiling -- >> the debt ceiling is our opportunity to really look at these questions, but the republicans want to negotiate -- speaker boehner the day after the election, went to the podium and put tax revenue on the table. this is our moment, this is...